The real reason Boeing's new plane crashed twice

This isn’t just a computer bug. It’s a scandal.
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Two Boeing airplanes have fallen out of the air and crashed in the past six months. On the surface, this is a technical failure. But the real story is about a company's desire to beat their rival.
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  • Shawn Rebello

    Shawn Rebello

    4 часа назад

    Wouldn't it have been easier to simply raise the height of the aircraft by installing taller landing gear? The engines could then have been accommodated under the wing I suppose.

  • Gary Looper

    Gary Looper

    4 часа назад

    Simple fact is that as "Flawed" as the Max may or may not be, BOTH CRASHES WERE PILOT ERROR! The first because the exact plane that crashed had the error the previous day and the crew solved the problem by turning off the malfunctioning equipment, Therefore the crew knew how to handle the error. The second because the crew fixed the problem in the air by turning off the malfunctioning equipment and then turned the malfunctioning equipment back on!

  • HEED

    HEED

    6 часов назад

    and the corruption continues. They didn't anything to solve the problem. updating the software does not make the plane safe. I will never fly on a boeing 737 .

  • Alison Mihailovich

    Alison Mihailovich

    8 часов назад

    Russian made Super Jet - 100 is better and cheaper ! Irish City Jet fly them now . Its good

  • Bernievids

    Bernievids

    16 часов назад

    I hope this is true.

  • prolazy55 lazlaz

    prolazy55 lazlaz

    18 часов назад

    I feel bad

  • Nonya Busi

    Nonya Busi

    20 часов назад

    Boeing needs in prison.

  • Eric Rojo

    Eric Rojo

    21 час назад

    Isn't it ironic that unbridled free enterprise and competition is touted as the solution to bad design decisions and poor quality products (at least in the U.S.). This is one instance where that is not the case.

  • MF SF

    MF SF

    День назад

    ...and who from Boeing will make jail time for keeping secret that tiny insignificant detail? Sorry... naive question... And the money wins 👌

  • Karen Van Vuuren

    Karen Van Vuuren

    День назад

    Very impressive video!

  • Daniel

    Daniel

    День назад

    It was possible to rush it, because boeing is USA...and USA has da power :)

  • Paul Williams

    Paul Williams

    День назад

    Ř

  • Sleepy

    Sleepy

    День назад

    As much as people say competition is an inevitable good that comes out of capitalism, the free market naturally moves towards monopolies or singular entities with large marketshare because generally it costs way less for the companies and consumers. Having to only train one pilot to fly two different planes is easier than learning 8. And it costs less for the airline

  • Chris Kingston

    Chris Kingston

    День назад

    Take a train next time you go on holiday

  • Benoit Vanhees

    Benoit Vanhees

    10 часов назад

    And by preference a European train :)

  • This is Kate

    This is Kate

    День назад

    I took two Airbus coming back home from Italy to US. I felt very safe. Lol

  • Tenshi

    Tenshi

    День назад

    Capitalism at its finest.

  • 유소영

    유소영

    День назад

    Why do we keep letting U.S. take advantage of the rest of the world. If this happened in U.S. and if the victims were American? It would have brought the company down.

  • OneGuyOnAScooter

    OneGuyOnAScooter

    День назад

    Let the record show that greed and envy for money and success can cause terrible accidents and huge loss of life.

  • Travis Phillips

    Travis Phillips

    День назад

    Hmmm I’ve seen another video that goes over exactly everything you just said. Weird

  • JLUMINADO

    JLUMINADO

    День назад

    In my personal opinion which more than likely would never happen is the CEO and everyone else that gave thr ok, should get fired and see criminal charges immediately, the FAA should have an internal investigation for not looking further into it than just taking Boeing's own certifications and again it'll never happen but I would have them scrap all 737 max 8 planes immediately. The worst part about it is that what ever they decide to do, we don't actually know what kind of planes we're risking our lives getting into. It's sad.

  • hampala tacklebox

    hampala tacklebox

    День назад

    Video subtitles: how the killing machine born

  • hampala tacklebox

    hampala tacklebox

    5 часов назад

    MI6 DC10: old killing machine

  • MI6

    MI6

    5 часов назад

    DC10: am I a joke to you

  • csjaugiedog

    csjaugiedog

    День назад

    @4:28 "The pilots continued to fight with the MCAS" Continued?? Why? The battle with MCAS never should have happened. FAILURE #1 They diverted their attention away from FLYING THE AIRPLANE. If they had simply turned off electric pitch trim and concentrated on a KNOWN PITCH AND POWER SETTING, the crash would not have happened! NEVER deviate from basic aircraft control. Pitch trim was changing uncommanded. The only way that's possible is with the electric trim system. @23:22, They knew something was wrong with pitch trim, yet they allowed the problem to continue while wasting precious time consulting the manual. Many situations can and do occur that demand a purely instinctive and automatic response. This was one of those situations MCAS did not kill those people...the pilots did!

  • I got my eyes on U

    I got my eyes on U

    День назад

    THEY KEEP ON MAKING JET ENGINES MORE AND MORE BETTER BUT NOT ONE HAVE NEVER TRIED TO BUILD AN ENGINE FOR AIRPLANES THAT DONT STALL UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE? THEN HOW COME ROCKET ENGINES DONT STALL GOING UP AND PASSING ALL LAYERS OF OUR ATMOSPHERE?

  • Ashton Manivanh At gaming

    Ashton Manivanh At gaming

    2 дня назад

    3:33 no MCAS means “MAY CRASH ANY SECOND”

  • David Henderson

    David Henderson

    2 дня назад

    The corny music track is not only irrelevant but detracts from the credibility of an otherwise good report.

  • Andrej Passco

    Andrej Passco

    2 дня назад

    so instead change put new wheels they decide to control the plane over one sensor.. Great idea

  • ROET

    ROET

    2 дня назад

    If its a Boeing ,i am not going!🤗

  • MrCliffda3rd

    MrCliffda3rd

    2 дня назад

    Yep I'd rather fly in an A320 or older 737. At least they'll get to my destination.

  • This is Kate

    This is Kate

    День назад

    MrCliffda3rd love a320 and a330

  • CXensation

    CXensation

    2 дня назад

    Boeing has become too big a company. They dont think they need to be responsible for human lives anymore. Lets beat them out of market, dont fly Boeing.

  • Agus Suryaputra

    Agus Suryaputra

    2 дня назад

    with this fault design I must check type of the plane i use for traveling. i will never using this 737 MAX plane. and I think 737 MAX must be grounded permanent.

  • AHKira

    AHKira

    День назад

    Very good attitude you have! 737 max is a irresponsible product.

  • ZeekielGames

    ZeekielGames

    2 дня назад

    That is sad. Boeing probably didn’t expect this *MCAS* system to fail, and thus it came unexpectedly that the planes were crashing. Disappointed...

  • CrossChannelFairy

    CrossChannelFairy

    2 дня назад

    How is it a computer 'bug' when it's code that was written for a specific purpose?

  • Bill Olsen

    Bill Olsen

    17 часов назад

    The code was probably ok, it was auto programmed to kick in on the basis of information from only one sensor aboard the aircraft, which is unheard of in this day & age. It should be done on the basis of 2 or 3 different sensors, but that would have delayed introduction of the new airliner. Criminal behavior at Boeing, and how did they ever think they could get by with it? Maybe Boeing is now run by a bunch of slick suits with new MBA's in their pockets instead of aircraft engineers like it was for years.

  • PlanesRkool

    PlanesRkool

    2 дня назад

    Everyone points fingers at MCAS. The MCAS did its job. The sensors or lack of sensors did not.

  • Agus Suryaputra

    Agus Suryaputra

    2 дня назад

    MCAS just small things,the big thing is fault design of the plane. 737 cant accomodate bigger engine,but boeing force it to put that engine,to save time and money to compete with airbus.

  • Jack Frost

    Jack Frost

    2 дня назад

    You also have to blame the airlines because they wanted to save money on fuel even after the pilots warned them something was wrong with the new engines

  • DBR00

    DBR00

    2 дня назад

    I normally hate background music in these videos but yours was soothing and somber in respect for the passengers killed.

  • adeleke abbey

    adeleke abbey

    2 дня назад

    Ignorance and greed are relatives,Boeing:good night,Airbus:good morning

  • kingcarcas1349

    kingcarcas1349

    2 дня назад

    I know somebody who worked with somebody that used to work at Boeing and at their new job they were telling them stuff like "we never tested things so damn much at Boeing like you guys want to" and then..............................

  • Victor Wanstreet

    Victor Wanstreet

    2 дня назад

    plane is perfectly safe it was pilot error

  • mack

    mack

    2 дня назад

    So all Boeing had to do was increase the ground clearance on the 737 to accommodate for the larger engine and the two crashes may not have happened. How can Boeing guarantee the software update will not crash during operation.

  • Stacy Faulkner

    Stacy Faulkner

    3 дня назад

    Inexperienced pilots is the reason for crash. Bottom line.

  • johan petersson

    johan petersson

    2 дня назад

    No. Corporates who cut corners for money is the reason. Period.

  • Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony

    3 дня назад

    Who is the fa$ narrating?

  • leule dawit

    leule dawit

    3 дня назад

    We should give up on the Boeing 737 max 8

  • PyroRomancer

    PyroRomancer

    3 дня назад

    >software overriding conscious pilots

  • Boris Karloff

    Boris Karloff

    3 дня назад

    Gone in 600 seconds

  • Boris Karloff

    Boris Karloff

    3 дня назад

    Boeing boeing...gone

  • Boris Karloff

    Boris Karloff

    3 дня назад

    Kill one person...go to jail Kill a lot of people....a statistical blip to your profits.

  • will edwards

    will edwards

    3 дня назад

    Is background music really necessary? It makes the dialogue hard to hear.

  • Boater on Tour

    Boater on Tour

    3 дня назад

    It's bad that there must crash a second plane before something was done.

  • Greenvolksi

    Greenvolksi

    3 дня назад

    Shocked. Did Boeing seriously fix bad flight dynamics with a bit of software and a sensor??? Is this the same company that designed and built the Jumbo and the Dreamliner?? Someone or some people in Boeing need to go to prison.

  • Nick M

    Nick M

    3 дня назад

    They had no left phalange. So sad.

  • M Ski

    M Ski

    3 дня назад

    Trained pilots wouldn't have crashed !!!

  • Turb0 Punda

    Turb0 Punda

    3 дня назад

    That's not 100% true but they would have been more prepared but more prepared doesn't mean that it will solve it

  • MavHunter20XX

    MavHunter20XX

    3 дня назад

    ONe thing thing that is left out that US pilots never crashed the 737 max. Is it true they didn't know about the MCAS? Or is it that they were so dependent on the computers they didn't know how to fly the the plane themselves w/o computer intervention. Something to think about and investigate.?

  • Turb0 Punda

    Turb0 Punda

    3 дня назад

    They wouldn't be flying if they couldn't fly it themselves. The autopilot is mostly used while the plane is stable and leveled at its cruising altitude so the pilots can relax a bit. Also you said they "wouldn't know how to fly the aircraft without computer intervention" when computers caused it in the first place.

  • Michael Lim

    Michael Lim

    3 дня назад

    FAA regulators?

  • Michael Lim

    Michael Lim

    3 дня назад

    How come the Boeing leaders and those involved in Max project are not found guilty of MANSLAUGHTER? Is it because they are americans and like all americans they are above the law?

  • Turb0 Punda

    Turb0 Punda

    3 дня назад

    That's not how the law works with air travel

  • Kairvette

    Kairvette

    3 дня назад

    Cant believe ppl would put such baseless story on the web without all the facts and data.

  • Boris Karloff

    Boris Karloff

    3 дня назад

    Can you believe that aircraft builders would put flawed redesigns into the service of carrying passengers?

  • Spic Democrat

    Spic Democrat

    4 дня назад

    Boeing executives bonus are calculated based on number of deaths, the more deaths the higher the bonus !!!!!

  • Turb0 Punda

    Turb0 Punda

    3 дня назад

    Lol

  • Spic Democrat

    Spic Democrat

    4 дня назад

    After the two crashes the Boeing executives ask? How big a bonus are we gonna git !!!!!

  • Spic Democrat

    Spic Democrat

    4 дня назад

    Never trust American companies, they don't mind killing their customers. Remember the Ford pinto !!!!!

  • Curtis Whyte

    Curtis Whyte

    4 дня назад

    This and all the issues the 787 was having is why I HATE Boeing. There more concerned with money then they are with human life and it disgusts me...

  • irvan36mm

    irvan36mm

    4 дня назад

    Boeing couldn’t just install taller landing gear in order to raise the 737 to make room for the bigger engine instead?

  • Turb0 Punda

    Turb0 Punda

    3 дня назад

    I'm pretty sure they'd have to change other things to accompany the taller landing gear and moving the engines up was an easier fix

  • Cosmos Wolf

    Cosmos Wolf

    4 дня назад

    Maybe Boeing and Airbus should end their rivalry.

  • Turb0 Punda

    Turb0 Punda

    3 дня назад

    Companies can't just "end their rivalries" it's a business rivalry and that means they're fighting over customers and if you end it it would end with one of the companies going bankrupt or dyingor one of the companies surpassing the other by a large amount.

  • Cosmos Wolf

    Cosmos Wolf

    4 дня назад

    Competition ain't always good.

  • Cosmos Wolf

    Cosmos Wolf

    4 дня назад

    Maybe competition isn't always good.

  • Benoit Vanhees

    Benoit Vanhees

    10 часов назад

    Competition is OK, it's greed that's dangerous.

  • Cosmos Wolf

    Cosmos Wolf

    4 дня назад

    This story proves that competition between companies isn't always a good thing.

  • Cosmos Wolf

    Cosmos Wolf

    4 дня назад

    In the end, the rivalry between Boeing and Airbus is what started this whole thing. Competition isn't always a good thing, especially in the Boeing/Airbus case.

  • Sweetteawillie

    Sweetteawillie

    4 дня назад

    At 3:52, the training materials don't include the software because pilots are trained to correct a runaway trim condition by selecting the AutoStab cutout and manually trimming the plane, which is how MCAS receives its power.

  • Vapletrichs Gne

    Vapletrichs Gne

    4 дня назад

    This should be used as an example of how the media manipulates facts through it’s disgusting attack on America.

  • Vens Modz

    Vens Modz

    4 дня назад

    Thats so sad. My heat goes out to the familys

  • Stefan Hearst

    Stefan Hearst

    4 дня назад

    This is exactly what 8 or 9 of pilots and engine inspectors were at DFW Airport were discussing near the restaurant at the airport that I was over-hearing with my friend Sarah way before any accident. The mechanics would also mention that, during inspection and review of engine servicing, there would always be buckets filled with O-rings, gaskets, lock-nuts and other parts that were new but not installed or used during the engine rebuild servicing at overseas contractor locations. The manuals were in English and many of the contract mechanics did not speak English and certainly did not read English but, in an effort to save money and increase profits for the American Airlines and Southwest Airlines and other airline companies, it was a "no brainer" to offshore the work to contract mechanics as they can be paid pennies on the dollar without any type of healthcare benefits needed. Oh well. When it comes to business decisions to maximise company profits at any price, it is apparent that human lives are taken into account and are irrelevant and inconsequential. All that really matters in or American Darwinian Capitalist Plutocracy is PROFIT above all things. Praise Be to the Free Market Economy.

  • Sweetteawillie

    Sweetteawillie

    4 дня назад

    At 2:22, the engine move is forward and up, and renders a balanced effect, as tested in the wind tunnel. Not just moved "up".

  • Linus Möller

    Linus Möller

    3 дня назад

    Yeah, that part could have been better explained.

  • Sweetteawillie

    Sweetteawillie

    4 дня назад

    What are your sources for the article besides other related news topics?

  • Seany 92019 ツ

    Seany 92019 ツ

    4 дня назад

    Boeing: Lets put a bigger engine on the 737 we don’t care if it doesn’t fit *PLANE CRASHES* Me: Just put taller wheels duh

  • Turb0 Punda

    Turb0 Punda

    3 дня назад

    Might not fit In when the gear folds up

  • donna foster

    donna foster

    4 дня назад

    Watch the documentary on you tube 60 minutes Australia., it tells everything about this. I was shocked. Of course you won’t see it air in the USA, but thank God for you tube, we all can watch it.

  • donna foster

    donna foster

    4 дня назад

    Sweetteawillie i have watched his videos. He is amazing in explaining the problems with the Max8.

  • Sweetteawillie

    Sweetteawillie

    4 дня назад

    donna foster I'll give you a source worth listening to - it's blancoliro channel, a current B-777 pilot with regular updates on this issue. So far, this video and an WSJ video omit key facts in their stories. Be leary of the mockingbird media.

  • Bearded Barnstormer

    Bearded Barnstormer

    4 дня назад

    Nice hatchet job on Boeing vice. Funny how none of the American operators had any issue with this. Where were you guys when the Automation on the airbus killed everyone on that Air France flight? I’ll wait

  • Tan Hinggjien

    Tan Hinggjien

    4 дня назад

    Boeing 737 MAX 8 / 9 ... ..is UNWELL aircraft production..... wrong and failed technology... Boeing..... MUST BE..... CHANGE.... this model and technology......... NOW...!! !! !! !!.......must be RISING.. NEW Model and NEW Technology..... and NEVER REPEAT.... MAX model and MAX technology....... Forever.. and forever.... ....and Forever......!! !!

  • Turb0 Punda

    Turb0 Punda

    3 дня назад

    wut

  • Austin Duffield

    Austin Duffield

    4 дня назад

    Boeing need to pay millions to the families.

  • Muhammad Firdaus

    Muhammad Firdaus

    4 дня назад

    penyelidik mati-matian mencari penyebab moncong pesawat yang menukik drastis itu, dan boeng's diam-diam aja, gak bilang klo mereka menambahkan software MCAS, yang menyebabkan hal itu sebagai solusi karena merubah design letak mesin, demi menyaingi Airbus.. it's All About money...damn.

  • Typical Ragyzy

    Typical Ragyzy

    4 дня назад

    The Lion air crash was on my birthday omg Crazy

  • Nobilangelo Ceramalus

    Nobilangelo Ceramalus

    4 дня назад

    What ever happened to fail-safe thinking in an aircraft company a hundred years old? 'Design is thinking made visible. But those guys were thinking, 'Quick, we have to beat Airbus', not 'How do we design a plane that will be safe?'

  • Edward Burke

    Edward Burke

    4 дня назад

    Sure, Boeing is in the wrong for failing to properly manufacturer and impliment the new engines but the FAA approved it. Everybody knows that a company might try to cut corners to save on cost, but what is the FAAs reason behind clearing an obviously flawed system?

  • Cosmos Wolf

    Cosmos Wolf

    4 дня назад

    It's because the FAA is corrupt.

  • Niko

    Niko

    4 дня назад

    You see, the safty priority in Indonesia and Africa, is alot less than the North America and Europe, especially northern Europe where the airplane travel is one of the most highest secure in modern age.

  • Dzaky 1706

    Dzaky 1706

    4 дня назад

    737 737 ------ + 1474 737 ------- - 737 Just some random math comments folks nothing to see here

  • eSalty

    eSalty

    4 дня назад

    Bad idea to watch this before having to go on an airplane, wish me luck. :(

  • Sweetteawillie

    Sweetteawillie

    4 дня назад

    eSalty You are safer in aircraft than on land, based on facts. Watch and listen to a B-777 pilot on this issue at blancoliro channel. He has updates from Boeing and administration officials. You will have a better understanding of the situation. Be safe in your travels and be well... informed.

  • james ndung'u

    james ndung'u

    4 дня назад

    In reality MCAS was introduced to hide a structural defect

  • Mark 433

    Mark 433

    4 дня назад

    I think this is why they say - never believe everything you hear on the internet

  • Green Silver

    Green Silver

    4 дня назад

    If it says Boeing, I’m not going.

  • Turb0 Punda

    Turb0 Punda

    3 дня назад

    Flew to Indonesia on a boeing 787 and to Japan on a 777. Just because one plane isn't safe doesn't mean they all are

  • re575817

    re575817

    4 дня назад

    America, we need to move to a socialist thought of thinking. AMERICA can still be a captious nation, but at what cost, itS consumers? Save lives and still make money. What is your rush? HOW MUCH IS TO MUCH?

  • Turb0 Punda

    Turb0 Punda

    3 дня назад

    Boeing is American but America is not Boeing

  • Passionately Ambivalent

    Passionately Ambivalent

    4 дня назад

    I'll take the train.

  • Michael Oswal

    Michael Oswal

    4 дня назад

    Why am I not surprised is the USA company the one "failing"

  • Sweetteawillie

    Sweetteawillie

    4 дня назад

    Michael Oswal The WSJ will sell you the same story. Market players taking advantage of bad publicity? A smear and a wrap-up all in one!

  • tiffsaver

    tiffsaver

    5 дней назад

    WHY HAVEN'T THE RESULTS OF THE BLACK BOXES BEEN RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC YET??

  • jake wood

    jake wood

    5 дней назад

    And also how does he know anything about aerospace engineering

  • Jose Camacho

    Jose Camacho

    5 дней назад

    wow putting there customers in danger so they can win

  • dovahkiin vakii

    dovahkiin vakii

    5 дней назад

    Vuz they want erase some Indonesianand africans 😂😁😂😂😂😁

  • R3CAV

    R3CAV

    5 дней назад

    Oof

  • Anais Gouati

    Anais Gouati

    5 дней назад

    Stop putting peoples lives in danger because you want more money!

  • Turb0 Punda

    Turb0 Punda

    3 дня назад

    It's not they want more money you understand companies can go bankrupt

  • Pussy Footer

    Pussy Footer

    5 дней назад

    Oops 😬

  • Astried Yunita Hair

    Astried Yunita Hair

    5 дней назад

    When Lion Air 610 crash with no trace because it's in the water, many blamed Lion Air not doing the right procedure. Even Boeing itself. I think somehow Ethiopian Air saves lots of life after. Because everybody was finally looked up to what happens since nobody care about what happen to Lion Air 610. Rest in peace all the soul from Lion Air and Ethiopian Air.

  • Steve Judge

    Steve Judge

    5 дней назад

    As tragic as it is, I can’t help myself to compare a scene of real plane crash with 9/11 - Flight 93 Shanksville Pennsylvania - "Nothing there but a hole in the ground" ... Go Figure ..

  • yong plus

    yong plus

    5 дней назад

    Wild wild west...thats all that it is. Greed

  • rooster sideburbs

    rooster sideburbs

    5 дней назад

    I dont see anything in this video that shows boeing did this to cut corners - they did it to compete with airbus. I dont think boeing knew this software would cause crashes - yeah cause crashes = bad for business.

  • Sweetteawillie

    Sweetteawillie

    4 дня назад

    rooster sideburbs Blancoliro channel is the one for you. You can see through this hype!

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